Well, guys

[Elliott]

I hope we can hold together! I am not so sure that there is a merge this week. Something tells me it won't be for two more weeks. BUT-- we need to make sure we stick together! Bud was right, if we divide we fall. We're gonna make it far, guys!

[Jen]

Hey guys, I have Bud's strategy and can post it if you want, but I kinda think we might be better of making our own? What do you think?

[Ashley]

yeah, me and Elliott saw the stratagy...i thought it looked pretty good. What would you change about it?

[Ashley]

I want us to be the final 4 though! The 4 original, best Kralendijk members in the finals, how cool would that be? We are the 4 that have been here since the beginning.

[Jill]

i guess that i am the only one who hasn't seen this strategy.

[Ashley]

Ok. Heres what Bud gave me in an IM earlier. I think its a good plan, and again, we should stick together in the merge and all be in the final 4 together.


Kid Rage: this week get Candi taken out
Kid Rage: I can get Tamara to work with you guys as she was gonna do with me
Kid Rage: gives u 4 majority
Kid Rage: then take out Colleen/Christy/Jennifer
Kid Rage: then David
Kid Rage: leaves you/Jill/Elliott/Jen/Tamara for Final 5
Kid Rage: from there u guys do what u want
Kid Rage: but that is the only way you guys can make Final 4
Kid Rage: so hopefully Jen stays true to u guys so it can work
Kid Rage: but its the same strategy I was gonna use with you guys so I passed it to her

[Jen]

I love how even though he's gone he still making you guys think that you can't trust me. Anyway, here is what he sent to me. (it's choppy because I had to cut and paste, sorry.) And it's alot cause I wanted you guys to know everything that was said.


budlanenc: see I did lie to you about one thing
budlanenc: Tamara wasn't my source on that team
budlanenc: and it SURE AS HELL isn't David like Christy thinks
dizzy4daizey: but you did give her immunity
budlanenc: its a ploy
budlanenc: why would I shine the light on who was helping me
dizzy4daizey: you wouldn't I know that
dizzy4daizey: I think you're working with Jennifer or Colleen
budlanenc: lol
dizzy4daizey: Candi isn't a strong enough player
budlanenc: but in all seriousness I wasn't planning on turning on you
budlanenc: just once u set the ball in motion I had to react
dizzy4daizey: so you're not going to tell me which one?
budlanenc: of course not
dizzy4daizey: lol
budlanenc: the game continues when I'm gone
budlanenc: I already gave the order
budlanenc: orders
budlanenc: they have a hit list
dizzy4daizey: lol
dizzy4daizey: Commando Bud
budlanenc: I will tell you this though
budlanenc: if I survived this week
budlanenc: I had a majority of the votes
dizzy4daizey: Now I know you know I'm smart.
budlanenc: I never doubted that
dizzy4daizey: Would I seriously keep you in the game after the merge if I allready suspected you were working with more than just 1 person on that tribe?
budlanenc: well honestly looking at it from your angle no I wouldn't have
budlanenc: but at the same time I knew you had deals
dizzy4daizey: lol
budlanenc: so I had to protect myself
dizzy4daizey: not with anyone on that tribe though
dizzy4daizey: seriously
budlanenc: but like i told you
dizzy4daizey: there was not an alliance with Christy
dizzy4daizey: only a favor
dizzy4daizey: and ONLY her
budlanenc: my TRUE intention was to be your soldier
budlanenc: I told u day one I didn't want to win
dizzy4daizey: so why work with all the others. Surely they are not all wanting me to make final 2
budlanenc: that happened AFTER you started
budlanenc: I had to work fast
budlanenc: I set up a Final 4 deal within an hr
dizzy4daizey: 2 final four deals from what I hear
budlanenc: nope
budlanenc: only 1
dizzy4daizey: so Jennifer and Colleen get cut out?
budlanenc: I had no Final 4 deal with them
dizzy4daizey: and Candi and whoever else lol
budlanenc: or her
budlanenc: or anyone else u name
budlanenc: I only had 1
dizzy4daizey: lol
dizzy4daizey: Ashley David Elliott & you
budlanenc: u r nuts
dizzy4daizey: lol
dizzy4daizey: just telling you what I've been told
budlanenc: but here is the difference
budlanenc: I may have offered a Final 4 I could keep
budlanenc: but are you gonna really keep your Final 6 deal?
dizzy4daizey: I've allready sworn to it.

dizzy4daizey: this game was tough for the guys from the beginning
budlanenc: yea
budlanenc: I came in expecting to be out the first week
dizzy4daizey: it's going to be really hard for a guy to win, but I do plan on bringing Elliott to the final 2
budlanenc: so I passed all my expectations
dizzy4daizey: yeah, and you had fun so there ya go
budlanenc: I honestly don't think he will last that long
budlanenc: no I didn't
budlanenc: I was pulling double duty
dizzy4daizey: if he will stick to the 6, he'll make final 2
dizzy4daizey: but he has to trust me enough
budlanenc: girls won't allow it
budlanenc: u know like I do that alliance really exist over there
budlanenc: but you have to do me one favor
budlanenc: cause as I recall it you owe me one lol
budlanenc: make sure Christy gets no where near Final 4
budlanenc: if you can get her out of the way this game is yours
dizzy4daizey: lol
dizzy4daizey: right now if I turn on anyone, I'm out
budlanenc: not really
dizzy4daizey: But, like I said, I plan to vote with the MAJORITY
budlanenc: like I told you I had a majority
budlanenc: take my place
budlanenc: they want to revolt
dizzy4daizey: lol
dizzy4daizey: they won't just bring me in just like that
budlanenc: they trust me
dizzy4daizey: not after you've "outed" me
budlanenc: and I purposely didn't out you to them
budlanenc: I'm not stupid
budlanenc: I gave you my word

budlanenc: there are no better strategist in this game than you and me
dizzy4daizey: lol
budlanenc: trust me when I say that deal you made you don't have nor need to keep
dizzy4daizey: so... what is the insurance?
budlanenc: you guys have a vote from the other tribe
budlanenc: you know like I do if you vote with the majority you will be voting off ur tribe
dizzy4daizey: hm...
dizzy4daizey: so voting with the majority would have me turn on the 6 ?
budlanenc: funny
budlanenc: I said ur tribe
budlanenc: Jill/Ashley/Elliot
budlanenc: Elliott
budlanenc: remember them
budlanenc: there are only 8 votes
dizzy4daizey: lol
budlanenc: since Jill and David can't vote
budlanenc: its crucial they both stay for a few weeks
dizzy4daizey: why if they can't vote?
budlanenc: numbers
dizzy4daizey: walk me through it yoda
budlanenc: think about it
dizzy4daizey: lol
budlanenc: follow me
budlanenc: you have an in right now with Christy and them
budlanenc: they think they still have the whole tribe loyal
budlanenc: next week get them to vote out Candi
budlanenc: that gives you guys and my insurance a 4 person vote
budlanenc: which will be the majority
budlanenc: that is why u leave the ppl who can't vote
budlanenc: they increase ur odds of winning
budlanenc: u then vote david off before his votes run out
budlanenc: so he is not an issue
budlanenc: but once Candi goes you guys are in the driver seat
dizzy4daizey: well now that he can't vote me out he's not an issue
budlanenc: if you EVER trusted me now is the time
budlanenc: I've ran every scenario this one is the best
dizzy4daizey: I did trust you, for the most part. Really I did. That whole David thing really threw me.
budlanenc: u see I am using him as a block
budlanenc: only use he had to me
budlanenc: that's why I didn't want Ashley and Elliott to vote out Jill though
budlanenc: messes up everything no matter which of us stay
budlanenc: I can still help u win this thing
dizzy4daizey: right
budlanenc: u have 9 weeks to deal with them
budlanenc: they aren't an issue
budlanenc: they simply occupy 2 places of votes u don't have to worry about
budlanenc: if u do the math u will see this strategy is right though
budlanenc: and I know u want to win
dizzy4daizey: well of course
dizzy4daizey: I didn't sign up to go home. lol
budlanenc: so trust me on this
budlanenc: you have to stay true to the tribe
budlanenc: if one of the others they will vote for that person to win
budlanenc: if you take one of the others
budlanenc: d**n I need to learn to type
dizzy4daizey: lol
budlanenc: get what I'm saying
dizzy4daizey: yeah I do
budlanenc: Tamara will work with you
dizzy4daizey: I know I'm being quiet but I do get what you're saying
dizzy4daizey: just trying to follow it.
budlanenc: she doesn't want to finish 6
budlanenc: why she broke from the alliance
budlanenc: so get Candi out this week a
budlanenc: and you have majority
budlanenc: puts u in the driver seat
dizzy4daizey: Tamara Tamara or "jennifer" Tamara?
budlanenc: Tamara
budlanenc: she found out what I was saying about her being the odd one out was true
budlanenc: she wants some payback
dizzy4daizey: lol
budlanenc: agreed to help bring them down
dizzy4daizey: just now getting in the game huh?
budlanenc: so if you take Candi out this week
budlanenc: next week you really need to go for your main competition being Christy
budlanenc: she is like Yasin the longer u leave her the bigger the threat she becomes
budlanenc: then Colleen or Jenn which ever you want
budlanenc: then the other
budlanenc: then David
dizzy4daizey: so... how do I know she'll work with me if I stay?
budlanenc: Final 5 do what u want
budlanenc: you have my word
budlanenc: that was the same strategy I was gonna use
budlanenc: I want to see someone deserving win this not named Christy
dizzy4daizey: aww. lol
budlanenc: I told u no hard feelings
budlanenc: if I get outplayed I'm fine with it
budlanenc: but I'm still a part of this tribe
budlanenc: and I'm still working with you
dizzy4daizey: well that's a comfort.
dizzy4daizey: lol
budlanenc: I thought about working with the other side
dizzy4daizey: I was trying to figure out how to keep my karma up till merge and keep my butt safe
budlanenc: but I didn't like that
budlanenc: this is how u stay safe
budlanenc: u know like I do if u trust them they will bite u
budlanenc: what u do after Final 5 is on u
dizzy4daizey: right
budlanenc: but just trust my strategy
budlanenc: it will work
budlanenc: and honestly the only chance u have
budlanenc: like I said if u vote with the majority they will want to take out one of ur tribe
budlanenc: then another
budlanenc: and another
budlanenc: then ur left 6 on 1
budlanenc: u like those odds?
dizzy4daizey: well the plan is to stay with the majority until I can come up for air.
budlanenc: telling u it won't work
budlanenc: by then it will be to late
budlanenc: u have to convince them to get out Candi
budlanenc: tell them she was my spy
budlanenc: they will vote her out
budlanenc: then u have majority
dizzy4daizey: oh... okay okay, I fogot about Candi. lol
budlanenc: and its no looking back
budlanenc: once Candi goes
budlanenc: YOU have majority
budlanenc: very simple
dizzy4daizey: right
budlanenc: Christy wants to know who was feeding me info
budlanenc: they already don't like Candi
budlanenc: use it
dizzy4daizey: okay, so one more play, then I can lay low and let someone else say who we knock out. LOL
dizzy4daizey: or lead them there
dizzy4daizey: quietly
budlanenc: ummm NO
budlanenc: one more time lol
budlanenc: Candi next
budlanenc: I will admit to it
dizzy4daizey: so, if Christy starts asking me... I tell her Candi, that gives us the majority then we go for Christy
budlanenc: gives u 4 votes with Tamara
budlanenc: after that knock off the 3 girls week by week
budlanenc: then David before he can vote BUT HE HAS TO BE LAST FOR THIS TO WORK
budlanenc: then Final 5 are you, Jill, Ashley, Elliott, Tamara
budlanenc: naturally you will want Tamara gone next
budlanenc: leaves u guys for Final 4
dizzy4daizey: very nice deal
budlanenc: the only difference in that and what I was gonna do is instead of Jill take Tamara to Final 4
budlanenc: its sound
budlanenc: as long as you can get Candi gone you have this in the bag
budlanenc: and that is the easiest part
budlanenc: you know the rest of your tribe will stick with you
budlanenc: so see what I meant
dizzy4daizey: lol, I hope so!
budlanenc: they will
budlanenc: they don't have other options
budlanenc: Jill is dealt with cause she can't vote
budlanenc: so you don't have to worry about her siding with Christy
budlanenc: Ashley and Elliott want to get as far as possible
budlanenc: they will stick with what they know
dizzy4daizey: I know. I really wish she hadn't given up votes but she was trying to get us to win
dizzy4daizey: I wouldn't have changed my sacrifice except you were so sure we'd won that I felt like I HAD to throw.
budlanenc: just trust me if you want to win that is what u need to do
budlanenc: either way I knew we weren't winning
dizzy4daizey: lol
budlanenc: it was a ploy to get u to lie in open
budlanenc: I knew the plan
budlanenc: I knew it was 2-1 in their favor
dizzy4daizey: lol
budlanenc: that told me all I needed to know
budlanenc: but that is the past it doesn't matter
budlanenc: use my plan and u will win
dizzy4daizey: so you used Elliott against me or did ya'll work that out so that I'd get egg on my face?
dizzy4daizey: Cause you didn't tell me you thought we won... he did.
budlanenc: actually I said it in the chat
budlanenc: I learnt my lesson in BB about the sacrifice challenge
budlanenc: I had to post once an hr for 24 hrs
budlanenc: post 1000 post in 24 hrs
budlanenc: gave up 5 POV comps
budlanenc: gave up 5 votes
budlanenc: gave up playing for HOH in Final 4
dizzy4daizey: sorry... brb ]
budlanenc: I learnt those who give up the least are in the drivers seat
dizzy4daizey: hey, I have to pick my son up. He just got sick at school I'll be back on later though

[Jen]

ps - just so you all know, I absolutely plan on helping to get all of us to the final four. I have not gone against any of you, and I won't. No matter what others would have you believe. I went against someone who was planning to go against me at the merge with people from the other tribe. Regardless of what he says, that is the truth. Anyway, if you guys can put that behind you and trust me, let's do this thing. I know we can make final 4 as long as we don't stray from each other. I am just as committed as you guys are. I would not have offered to sacrifice myself to keep Jill in the game if I wasn't here for ya'll. That was not a ploy, that was me laying it all on the line to keep my friend from leaving under unfair conditions.

As far as what I don't like about Bud's plan is the turning on Christy thing. There is no elaborate "womens alliance". There never has been. Elliott would not be part of the final 4 alliance if we were all involved in some man-haters alliance. While I do agree that at some point Christy will have to go, I don't see why we can't bring her to the final 6 like we promised. Bud allready tried to get her to believe that Candi was the leak, and she is not buying it. So that's the part we may have to change. Someone else may have to go in Candi's place first for us to get #'s on our side. That's just me being honest about how I feel about his plan. What do you guys suggest we do?

[Jen]

oh sorry, I just saw that I missed some of the chat when I was copy/pasting. Where it switches to me talking about how it this game was tough for guys from the beginning we were talking about his BB game that he's making and how he was going to make it even with the same # of men and women.

And Jill, I said I wish you hadn't given up so many votes, because I knew that made you a target for an easy vote out.

And you should all know that I play "dumb" to get more info from him. Anyway, that's all. I'm tired and ready for bed. Have a good night all!

[Jill]

wow, sensory overload. i really feel bad they you all were put thru the ringer. i think that we will come ahead in the long run. next week david has immunity, so he'll be safe, and their next weakest player is candi. i'm pretty sure that we can get the point across and throw in the point that she must know that she is weak, and she has been doing anything she can to stay in the game.

i would like nothing more than to see one of you guys win this all even if it means sacrificing myself down line to keep numbers. bud was right, david and i are nothing more than placeholders right now. but i will always stay true to you guys to keep us all in the game. i will work hard at challenges and keep dealing out karma points to try and keep us safe.

also, since i knew that i could not vote, i tried not to add to pressure that ashley and elliott were getting, so i stayed out of what was going on. i felt the cards will fall where they will and if the vote was for me, so be it. but i am very happy to still be here. the fact that both jen was willing to sacrifice herself for me and me for all of you says something. the other tribe doesn't have that kind of bond. we need to use it to our advantage.

this is all provided a merge happens, if it doesn't we just need to win.

[Jill]

hey everyone...i'm off to meet some friends for football. i will be back in time, it will probably right at challenge time.