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TC #13
Dec 19, 2007 21:45:50 GMT -5
Post by Abbie on Dec 19, 2007 21:45:50 GMT -5
First off why do I think I deserve the title of "Sole Survivor"...Simply put because out of those left I feel I have played the best game...I came in with a strategy...I made the best of EVERY opportunity...I took chances...I won competitions...I overcame all odds...
Why do I think the others don't
Jill: I personally have nothing against her and think she is a great person...However I ask what has she done in this game before or after losing the 10 votes...All I can think of for this entire game is her beating Tamara in the Tie Breaker...Strategy wise I still have seen nothing in her answers that suggest she ever had one which leads me to believe she played this game by the seat of her pants...Part of being a survivor is being prepared...
Colleen: What can I say that she hasn't already said lol I truly don't think there is anything I can add...
Abbie: I could be bitter, but as I have told you in conversations, I am a game player, and I realize that this IS A GAME. My question to you is actually a simple one. While I agree that lying, and backstabbing are part of the game, I would like to know if you held true to ANY alliance that you made? Also, the attacks on the boards...Can you tell me what the strategy behind those were, (mainly Ashley) and what you stood to gain out of acting in that manner? Also, what was your riskiest move in the game?
My original alliance was with Jen I kept it true to every sense of the word even after 2 attempts to take me out (one which she succeeded in) until Finals My second alliance was with Tamara and I never went back on my word to her. We never had any agreement on where we were going only that we would help each other as far as possible and I never voted for her and protected her every chance I had... So yes I did keep my word as I did to even Jill...I told her 4-5 times throughout this game I would keep her safe and she is still sitting here
The attacks on the board were essentially part of a bargain to get Elliott out. When the tie was forced and Yasin was the deciding vote he was torn on what to do. Ashley had come to him and made it clear she was blaming Jen (at least from what I was told) and he didn't want to put Jen in jeprody. I told him if he voted Elliott out I would make personally sure that Ashley would be running back to Jen for her help. Once he kept his end of the deal if you look back at the TC that week I made a statement claiming how Jen had nothing to do with it and I played her...I then went further and started the simple attacks on Ashley...I made it appear it was to get her to quit but really it was just so she would go back to Jen as I figured an attack would have her looking for some support in an effort to get me voted out and Jen would be the obvious choice. I kept both Jen and Yasin in the loops as well as Nick on the attacks and all I was told not to do by Jen & Yasin was go after her grandpa. They did tell me on a couple of the later occassions they thought I had went to far and I told them I would be quitting the attacks the next day. I had made it very clear that I wasn't serious and it was to make her THINK I was capable of doing it more so than actually doing it. Yes I know I crossed a line when I made the comment about her grandpa but that was done because I was mad. After a convo with her I felt she basically dared me when she told me to do it because she didn't care and it wouldn't bother her. I kept it very simple though because there are even lines that even in a game I don't feel comfortable crossing. On top of that when I stopped the attacks I had a conversation with Ashley telling her where I got the info and what else was available and how to protect herself from people online who may really want to use it for harm. That essentially is also what I stood to gain out of it. I got my way by having Elliott voted out. Plus it threw her off her game for the next week.
My riskest move I would say was those attacks. They very easily gave me the biggest backlash of anything I have done in this game and very easily could have caused the rest of the castaways to join together and vote me out. However this entire game I took chances and put my neck on the line, so if it meant carrying out my gameplan I was willing to take that risk...
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TC #13
Dec 19, 2007 21:46:19 GMT -5
Post by Jen on Dec 19, 2007 21:46:19 GMT -5
Yasin if you're reffering to my comment, I was talking to Colleen.
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TC #13
Dec 19, 2007 22:16:16 GMT -5
Post by Ashley on Dec 19, 2007 22:16:16 GMT -5
Alright. Sorry im just now getting here. I guess im the only one here with a life that keeps me too busy to put up with this and be on here constantly. I dont really have anything to say except none of you deserve to win. Ya'll will have to try hard to get my vote. Bud, however, dont even bother. Id rather have had tyler back in the game then you. You are scum. I dont care that you picked on me. But you had no right to bring my personal life into the game, especially my dead grandfather. You deserve to burn in hell for all eternity. I hope i never have to deal with you again. I also have a few comments for nick to since we're all speaking freely. I think the way you handled Buds harrassment towards me was wrong and very unprofessional. The rules were clearly broken numerous times and you even told me that if bud kept up that behavior, he would be removed. Way to stick to your word. Good luck to Colleen and Jill. Lets see if you can win my vote. Its going to take a LOT of convincing.
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TC #13
Dec 19, 2007 22:29:39 GMT -5
Post by Tamara on Dec 19, 2007 22:29:39 GMT -5
So I didnt really think of any questions to ask because I knew that everyone else would ask good enough general questions....anyway all answers are clear and it is exremely evident that one person lived up to their voted on title.
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TC #13
Dec 19, 2007 22:36:57 GMT -5
Post by Elliott on Dec 19, 2007 22:36:57 GMT -5
Thanks, Ashley. Suppose I don't have a life either, eh? After reading all of this, my vote has changed. I think it was wrong to use personal attacks on Ashley to get me out (which is a little hard to understand, but alright.) I think it's wrong to lie to your allies and I think it's wrong to force little kids to decide between adults and force them to play adult games when they are just that, little kids. I now know why there is a 21 year old age limit on the real Survivor. I agree with Ashley, I think not removing Bud from the game was unprofessional, and if Bud did tell Nick about the attacks, a stop should have been put to it. But then again, as I've said all along (and Bud confirmed in his opening statement), he was added TO create drama, TO stir the pot, TO make us argue like this. I also believe that's why he was brought back into the game before the merge. Having an in with the creaters of the game doesn't help if you want to win it.
As you all know, Ashley was probably my biggest ally in the game. I will still back her up. It's a game. Hell, it's an ONLINE game. Colleen was right. There is no prize. Why does it truly matter? This is ridiculous that we are arguing like this. WE ARE ALL GROWN ADULTS (with the exception of Yasin.) WE DO NOT NEED TO BE SO CADDY, RUDE, OR SELFISH. Everyone on the Jury: Regardless of if you respect Colleen's game play, she did Outlast us. All three of them outwitted, outlasted and outplayed us, because they are sitting there as the final three.
Why am I so bitter? I'm sorry. My girlfriend was just rehospitalized. She's probably not going to make it. I probably won't ever come back on this website. I probably won't be at the finale tomorrow. I've said this many, many times throughout the game: sometimes real life is more important than a game. Good luck to all of you in your lives. I think the only person I'm ever going to talk to is Ashley, maybe Jen and Christy. If any of you want to talk to me, you know how to get a hold of me.
This is one of my favorite poem's. It is (was?) Michelle's, too. It's in French. (I bet none of you knew I was born there. None of you bothered to find out much about me.) I don't know why I'm posting it, but I hope you like it. It's about Naricisim. It fits.
Abandon entoure d'abandon, tendresse touchant aux tendresses... C'est ton interieur qui sans cesse se caresse, dirait-on;
se caresse, en soi-memĂȘ, par son propre reflet eclaire. Ainsi tu inventes le theme du Narcisse exauce.
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TC #13
Dec 19, 2007 22:43:49 GMT -5
Post by Jill on Dec 19, 2007 22:43:49 GMT -5
elliott, you are so right about everything. i am so sorry to hear about michelle, my thoughts are with you, michelle and grace.
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TC #13
Dec 19, 2007 22:51:16 GMT -5
Post by Jen on Dec 19, 2007 22:51:16 GMT -5
I'm sorry about Michelle E. I will be saying a prayer for you guys tonight. You know me, and you know how deeply I believe in prayer. You are all three lifted up tonight...
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TC #13
Dec 19, 2007 23:03:17 GMT -5
Post by Christy on Dec 19, 2007 23:03:17 GMT -5
Elliott...as I have already stated to you personally, You, Michelle, and Gracie are in my family and my prayers. Hang in there hun!
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TC #13
Dec 20, 2007 2:06:46 GMT -5
Post by Ashley on Dec 20, 2007 2:06:46 GMT -5
El, hun, im so sorry about michelle. I hope shes alright. I didnt mean you didnt have a life. You know you were my best friend (and now I realize you were my only friend) in this game. I've come to absolutely love you and i so want to get closer now that this stupid game is over. Im glad we made it as far as we did, boo. We kicked ass :-) You're probably the only one i'll stay in touch with after this. Im glad at least one good thing came out of this thing, i got to know an AMAZING person and a great friend. As paris would say: love ya b!tch ;-) haha xoxo keep me updated on michelle. I'm keeping you guys in my prayers. Much luv, boo.
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TC #13
Dec 20, 2007 8:23:58 GMT -5
Post by Abbie on Dec 20, 2007 8:23:58 GMT -5
OK I feel compelled to say something. I'm not going to say anything about any of the things said about or towards me because quite simply I brought them on myself and I take responsibility for my actions. However I have to ask why you would go through an entire game and not put everything you have in to it. Why take the time to come back after being voted out to tell everyone who has put so much time and energy just as you have that and I quote "I guess im the only one here with a life that keeps me too busy to put up with this and be on here constantly" To me that shows in reality you probally are no better than those you talk about. If you would have directed those comments to me its all fine and dandy but EVERYONE in this game gave up a lot to make it work. This game can't work on any one person. Without everyone being active it not only isn't fun but unequal. So for that I have to stand up for everyone here.
As far as the comments against Nick again I have to say something. The rules can only be enforced on the site. Nick can not police actions that happen outside of that. Meaning anything that happens on MySpace, AIM, YIM, etc. When I posted the list of Macy's in the area he took it down. When I crossed a line he told me. He did his job. That is why the nastiest stuff was always on messenger. Simple as that.
Lastly in no way has Nick shown me favoritism in this game. You make it out as if I'm buddy buddy with Nick and that couldn't be further from the truth...The reason I was brought in was because one tribe had two people not showing up etc which was costing the tribe. Everyone here saw how it was making the game unfair and the whole tribe was complaining about it and wanted something done. When Yasin found out Nick was looking to replace one YASIN threw my name into the hat because he knew I could help the tribe. I was brought here because I was available as a replacement. I don't remember ever saying I was brought in in my opener to create controversy. I simply did that on my own as that is part of the strategy I play.
So if you want to put the blame on anyone you can only put it on me as no one controls my actions but me.
That is all...
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TC #13
Dec 20, 2007 9:39:26 GMT -5
Post by Jen on Dec 20, 2007 9:39:26 GMT -5
Okay Bud I know you said not to bother but I have to say something as well - Ashley, I told you exactly what Bud was doing and why. I told you that he was doing it to make you quit and that he was doing it so that you would be more afraid of what he COULD do than what he was actually doing. So while everyone wants to say that I had a part in it or I knew he was doing it and that it was a deflection tactic or WHATEVER you're trying to pin on me, the fact is this - I told Ashley and Jill what he was doing and why. I was not the only one to know what was going on. And yes, I have said this entire time that alot of the names he called you I did not agree with and I thought were horrible. I NEVER condone treating a woman of any age like that. And yes, I did fight him VERY hard on the grandfather issue. I told him that was crossing all SORTS of lines, but didn't I warn you before he did it?? Didn't I tell you it was going to happen? So how can I get blamed for what HE said and did, when you KNEW about ALL of it? So yes, after I warned you and after you goaded him on, I did get out of it. After that it was up to you to get yourself out of it.
And I hate to point this out as well, but didn't I go after Tamara and Colleen that week so that the heat would come off of YOU Ashley?? So that there was something ELSE to focus on? I thought that I was doing all of that for my friend, apparently not. I guess it's kinda like how you lied to Elliott about me having an immunity idol so that he'd vote me out....
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TC #13
Dec 20, 2007 10:28:32 GMT -5
Post by Yasin on Dec 20, 2007 10:28:32 GMT -5
Elliot, if you vote for Colleen, that's sad. She does not deserve to win at all. Also, yes Bud was out-of-line. He didn't get kicked out, and? In Regular Survivor if someone does this do they get kicked out? NOPE. You guys aren't going to vote for him because he wanted Ashley out? UMM are you guys serious? You guys call yourself grown adults, and call me a kid when I'm the one that's acting like the adult and putting aside all my personal feelings, and voting strictly on game. You all can't do that? I swear and you guys call yoruself adults?
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TC #13
Dec 20, 2007 11:33:22 GMT -5
Post by Christy on Dec 20, 2007 11:33:22 GMT -5
Okay. the game is over, and there have been many things that have happened in this game that might be "controversial", however it is A GAME. Ashley, I do have a life, a pretty full one actually. I do these games to amuse myself in my downtime. I am sorry that you feel that you had no friends, however, that is not what the game of survivor is about. Did you know anything at all about survivor when you signed up for this game? While there have been ALOT of things that I have not agreed with, it is nothing different than would happen if you were on an island or in a remote location playing this game.
That being said, I have made my decision. I have taken everything into consideration that the final (2) have said. Jill and Abbie...I commend you on a game well played, and may the best one win!!!!
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TC #13
Dec 20, 2007 11:40:12 GMT -5
Post by Elliott on Dec 20, 2007 11:40:12 GMT -5
Perhaps, Yasin, in the real Survivor they would not be disqualified. However, we are not playing the real Survivor. We are playing Big Brother Talk: Survivor Bonaire, and the rules state that that sort of thing is not acceptable. Well, apparently it is. Nowhere did I say I was voting for Colleen. Nowhere did I say I wasn't voting for Bud. Don't call me immature simply because I don't vote the same way you do. I am more grown up and more adult than you are, Yasin, and that extends further than an online game. When you're 19, alone, have a baby, and have no idea what you're supposed to do, come talk to me. Then we can talk like adults.
For all of your prayers, thank you. I really, really appreciate it. It means a lot to me. Michelle's service will be held on Saturday morning. She was 19, a perfect mother, daughter and girlfriend. Thanks to all of you who helped me through all of this. I wish I had fought harder in Survivor, but frankly, I had other things to worry about.
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TC #13
Dec 20, 2007 12:01:48 GMT -5
Post by Yasin on Dec 20, 2007 12:01:48 GMT -5
I am not calling just you immature, sorry I should have worded it differently. I'm calling all the people here immature who couldn't handle Bud's attacks. Like honestly GROW UP and learn to ignore. If he's saying things on the board then don't come on the board unless you have to. If he's saying things to you online, BLOCK HIM. Honestly, you guys need to GROW UP if you couldn't handle Bud's criticism. At the end of the day, you know who you are and he knows who he is. That's all that matters.
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